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With a lot of recent feedback, we have made the decision to once again give the community a choice for what happens next with the map. It has become apparent to us that there are core issues with the map we're on. Everything is pretty bunched around spawn and it results in a lot of mayhem. Although we have tried several things to improve this, it would seem that we will be unable to resolve it without making drastic changes to the map.
So, this is where you come in. We have made the decision to let the community vote on what should happen next. We have 3 options:
Vote reaction: 👍
Map link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1616103125
Map Layout/Size: https://i.notgyazo.club/aRDUHv6u.png
Vote reaction: 👎
Map link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1616103125
Map Layout/Size: https://i.notgyazo.club/WIIeYPhD.png
Vote reaction: 😡
Map link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1299936127
Map Layout/Size: https://i.notgyazo.club/Ke7rWQ12.png
These are the 3 options we present to you. Remain on this map and make drastic changes to it, go back to v1 and improve on that or try a new map and go to Pine City. We have the rights to edit any of those maps, so we can make changes any of them.
To vote, react to this post with the reaction stated next to the map above.
The results of this vote will not guarantee this is what we decide, we're mainly looking for what the community is interested in seeing next.
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In my personal opinion Rockford XYZ v1 is the best choice from the maps within this vote, While the map might not be the most optimized or perfect. I believe that the size of the map is perfect with the outskirts around the map and the road layout and compared to the other maps Pine City which is quite a flat map gives a similar vibe to the current map with the map becoming very repetitive. Although it would mean going back to a map we had in the past I think it would be best considering it already has a handful of edits made meaning less work is required on Pepper's side.
Pine City although it looks like a nice map but after playing on it in singleplayer It feels like it would require a lot more changes than Rockford XYZ v1 due to the fact of the small amount of robbable locations or them all currently being located in the main city which is a problem with the current map with the main road having multiple key locations on that stretch of road.
I feel that Rockford XYZ v1 would be the best choice for the map vote considering it will require the least work out of the 3 options, we have used the map in the past so we already have edits made and the overall layout of the map has worked well for the server in the past.
Back to florida
Florida was by far one of the worst maps we were ever on.
I liked Florida alot (the original one), I liked the XYZ Rockford V1 map but I wouldn't mind a change so I'm stuck between R V1 and Pine city.
I've made up my mind Dave pointed the obvious.
Personally, I think the best map would be rockford v1 as this is a map we all love and know. As said in the thread the current map is too clustered and causes too much chaos which adds to the lag issue that the server sometimes faces. As for pine city, if you took out all of them long tunnels and the freeway that has nothing on it, it is a very small map with not much breathing room.
Edit: Pine City - In addition to my point about the useless roads, there is a large lake area that contains no buildings or anything really it is just a lake. Also, the bank in pine city is very small and is way too easily accessible and is a nightmare (much like the current pres office) both to defend and attack. Pine city would require a lot of editing to make it work.
Current map - The current map invites no real need to exit the city for current law enforcement departments unless they are in pursuits or conducting a house raid, which are currently very rare. Major crime spots are filled with horrible sight lines that players can abuse to pick off any incoming government or attackers. For example the pres office, the elevator up to the pres office is a complete deathtrap as you can get killed before you can even get to the top of it.
Remain the same
I feel like moving to V1 would be a great decision due to many factors;
Firstly, the major crime spots are evenly distributed across the entire map, meaning people not only have more choice, but more freedom when it comes to escaping those said major crimes due to the size of the map and the complexity of the outskirt and inner city roads. Having the major crime spots scattered will also allow players to create more roleplay situations as they are running from the government.
Secondly, departments will be able to operate well on this map as all departments can stay in their jurisdiction. This could potentially increase the activity in some government departments. Marshals
Finally, as said before, V1 will bring back a sense of nostalgia to a large number of players we currently have, the majority of the players know this map like the back of their hand while some have never played this map, I don't see this map getting repetitive or boring if you decide to bring it back.
Although the map isn't well optimized, certain factors about the map make up for it, I genuinely feel like this is the perfect map for our current playerbase.
Theres loads more factors that I believe make this map good but these are the ones I feel make the most impact.
if we gonna go back to V1 like the outer layer needs more buildings that we can base in because it is litterally wilderness there if not i think it would be better if we stay on this map.
Personally, i think the worst choice from the list is Pine City v2b. Why ? As Infusion said if you took out all of them long tunnels and the freeway that has nothing on it, it is a very small map with not much breathing room. When looking at the Map Layout i only see long roads leading to tunnels leading to long roads. All you will need is a fast car like the Aston Martin and the cops will have no chance. The map will require a lot of edits(probably) and will be replaced before its even done because most of the people get bored of the maps way too fast.
I feel like going back to Rockford XYZ v1 would be the best choice. The map is bing enough and a lot of people love it, Also this map will require the least amount of work
Move to Pine City looks really good from the pictuers
Pine City could be a good change to change things up a bit
Remain the same.
Rockford_v1 actually gives SD a designated place to patrol which was one of the worst flaws of the current map. While I believe this map is the best by far, I hope to see some of the stuff from the current map added to Rockford_v1. For example, the new PD is amazing and it would be nice to have the shopping centers right in front of spawn unlike slums which isn't used at all.
The only thing I dread.....
> In my personal opinion Rockford XYZ v1 is the best choice from the maps within this vote, While the map might not be the most optimized or perfect. I believe that the size of the map is perfect with the outskirts around the map and the road layout and compared to the other maps Pine City which is quite a flat map gives a similar vibe to the current map with the map becoming very repetitive. Although it would mean going back to a map we had in the past I think it would be best considering it already has a handful of edits made meaning less work is required on Pepper's side.
> I feel that Rockford XYZ v1 would be the best choice for the map vote considering it will require the least work out of the 3 options, we have used the map in the past so we already have edits made and the overall layout of the map has worked well for the server in the past.
I definitely vote for Rockford. I have nice memories with Florida, but Florida got errors and lags.
Rockford XYZ v1 would be the best choice
TLDR it offers as much city content as the current map whilst removing the claustrophobic and cramped feeling - significantly improves car chases and store robberies and gives a wider range of places for crims to base. Will also remove the huge amount of car minge which occurs since not everything is on 1 road
Well, I have a suggestion and a vote.
I would like to stay on the current map as well as go to Rockford V1
but I would like to see a better version of the current one that is bigger with a bit more areas to explore and more even distribution of the stores and the places in general something that would be bigger than the current map but not as big as Rockford.
This would help those whose computers are not that good anymore and it would make a new experience without much lag and too much stuff in one map.
The current map is good but Rockford has more opportunities for people as already said Sheriff's have a designated area but I don't feel like this is the only reason for switching to Rockford and it doesn't make for a good switch as big maps = more rendering/computing power and when it's still early in the morning there would be 10-25 people on Rockford would just be too big and Police wouldn't have much Pullover's and it would not make the playing experience more fun.
for the new map, I would suggest you get all the needed places, make the map bigger and add some new stuff move stuff around and combine the lake area with the other areas/The motel area delete the tunnel to lake houses and to the long tunnel where the cadet training area is and make that a big place as I don't think that it is needed to have a tunnel every new place and it is just kinda stupid as in real life this would not be the case. So basically take the current map and make it bigger and more distributed and edit the areas, connect them by removing the constant tunnels and maybe add more land with nothing there/ a countryside with an ocean and beach. The beach would give a Florida feeling and it would give the players who loved/liked Florida to have a place to remember it by.
I thank you guys for reading my suggestion and please give your feedback as I would love to see this happen.
With lots of good wishes,
if we go back to the other map please for the love of god change the bank, the standoffs in the elevator were downright retarded and criminals could wait forever for pd to leave.
More space for his magnum Dong
Could i suggest another option? There is this map named rp_southside its one of the most detailed and involving map i have ever seen. Im not sure if its editable or not but i think it would be worth considering.
Steam link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2010286798
Rockford V1 is probaly the best map That we could go back to in my opinion
South side is shite for the following reasons:
Overall SouthSide would be even worse an option than Pines City, at least with pines city your FPS wont die.
Thanks everyone for voting and giving feedback!
We have taken everything said on-board and will be re-editing and moving back to the base map for Rockford XYZ v1. This will make the map Rockford XYZ v3 and we will be scrapping all v1 edits, starting fresh. We have no ETA on this, but keep an eye on the update showcase channel in discord for the most up to date previews and sneak peaks.
Thanks again all who voted, we appreciate every one of you <3